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mikelbeck 01-11-2005 12:00 PM

Wire size for high output alternator?
 
I got me a high-output 1-wire alternator for Xmas. According to the tag on it, it puts out 60A @ 3000 RPM and 95A @ 6000 RPM.

I've got my battery in the trunk of my car.

What size wire do I need to run from the alternator to the cut-off switch? The docs that came with the alternator say 8 gauge, but I'm assuming that's for a battery that's mounted under the hood, not in the back.

mikelbeck 01-11-2005 12:06 PM

Here's another question that kinda goes along with that.

The RPM is the alternator speed, not the engine speed, based on a stock pulley (3:1). I've got a 30% underdrive pulley on my crank.

So... If the alternator is rated at 60A @ 3000 RPM (alternator speed), the engine speed is 1000 RPM. With the 30% underdrive, that's 1300 RPM, I think?

With that thinking, this alternator will put out full amperage at 2600 engine RPM? (rated at 95A @ 6000 alternator RPM, divided by 3 = 2000, plus 30% = 2600)? Is that right?

82GT 01-11-2005 02:12 PM

I'm using 1/0 welding cable from

http://www.weldingsupply.com/cgi-bin...F:OR:terms::PA

I bought the swedge on tool for the cable lugs, should come out nice once I get to it.

mikelbeck 01-11-2005 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by 82GT
I'm using 1/0 welding cable from

http://www.weldingsupply.com/cgi-bin...F:OR:terms::PA

I bought the swedge on tool for the cable lugs, should come out nice once I get to it.

Is that cable flexible?

82GT 01-11-2005 02:20 PM

Duh, your talking about the atl wire, my bad (lack of sleep).

Do you have to run it through the disconnect switch to power off the car?

82GT 01-11-2005 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by mikelbeck
Is that cable flexible?

It's way more flexible then the 1 ga cable that came with the Moroso battery relocation kit.

mikelbeck 01-11-2005 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by 82GT
Duh, your talking about the atl wire, my bad (lack of sleep).

Do you have to run it through the disconnect switch to power off the car?

Yes.

82GT 01-11-2005 02:35 PM

The chart for the welding cable only goes down to 4ga which is good for 100 amps up to 100'

mikelbeck 01-11-2005 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by 82GT
The chart for the welding cable only goes down to 4ga which is good for 100 amps up to 100'

At what voltage?

82GT 01-11-2005 03:04 PM

Welding Cable By The Foot
Industry standard class K neoprene insulated welding cable. Made from 30-gauge soft-drawn copper strands for superior flexibility. Properties: 600v, -40 deg C. to +90 deg C., heavy duty/all purpose.

bdyj 01-12-2005 12:05 PM

I used an 8 gauge wire to my battery in the trunk and have not had a problem in 4 years. I run an 75 amp one wire.
You have to connect the alternator to the battery side of the switch or directly to the positive side of the battery.
If not the car will not shut down if the switch is turned off.

mikelbeck 01-12-2005 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by bdyj
I used an 8 gauge wire to my battery in the trunk and have not had a problem in 4 years. I run an 75 amp one wire.
You have to connect the alternator to the battery side of the switch or directly to the positive side of the battery.
If not the car will not shut down if the switch is turned off.

Right, I've got it working properly now, I'm just upgrading the alternator. I think I've got 8 gauge wire on there now, I'll have to check.

sickt7cuda 01-12-2005 04:23 PM

Mike, what you could do is (if you already have 1 8ga wire) is to run a second 8ga. New math; 8+8=4ga equivalent. On long runs, the bigger gauge the better. If the wire heats up, you loose efficency.

Smink 01-17-2005 12:26 AM

I've got a Delco 3-wire 100 amp with internal regulator.

Direct wire to the positive post in the trunk is TEN GAUGE.

Do some checking, 10 gauge is all you need.

BBLM23 01-17-2005 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Smink
I've got a Delco 3-wire 100 amp with internal regulator.

Direct wire to the positive post in the trunk is TEN GAUGE.

Do some checking, 10 gauge is all you need.

I have cooked several 10 gauge wires with my Chrysler alternator. I switched to 8....

mikelbeck 02-11-2005 04:57 PM

I picked up some 4 awg wire for this, finally..

Scored 25' on eBay for a good deal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4524436227
I also picked up some gold-plated terminals:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5749463599

So I guess my wire search is over!
:3gears:

sickt7cuda 02-11-2005 07:18 PM

Looks like a good deal. It's got lots of strands. That 'il git 'er dunn. :3gears:

mikelbeck 02-11-2005 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by sickt7cuda
Looks like a good deal. It's got lots of strands. That 'il git 'er dunn. :3gears:

And it's flexible, that's what I was mostly looking for.


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